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ruining photography.... debate?
i was inspired to write this because of a recent journal i wrote on what is popular here on DA, i was also dared to make it a news article ......so always being up for a challenge i've made it a news article......intrigued?.....if you class yourself as a photographer then you should be.
Here is the very firmly tongue in cheek journal i wrote ....although many a true word spoke in jest.......so they say?
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as said it covers what is popular here on D.A. especially that that is classed as photography... It was also inspired by a collective feeling that is out there relating to what is popular here on our beloved D.A. in the photography category. This collective feeling comes from people i watch and people that watch me.
I think the general 'feeling' is that what is appreciated as photography quite often has probably rather stepped into the realms of photo manipulation. There is no problem with photo manipulation and i know i am in danger of sounding like a photography snob i feel it only becomes a problem when well respected 'p photographers' mislead there many watchers by alluding to have taken a photo as opposed to their image being a photo manipulation.
Obviously this deceit can have a retrograding effect on the aspirations and achievements of an impressionable youth. Much of this debate will also encompass hdr and its over, and poor use to create an image that is more accurately categorised as photo manipulations.
ive also made some observations as to what i see as what is popular here on D.A. and i know ive opened myself up here to lots of stick.....especially among the cat owners (and im guilty in another way posting dog pictures
...but hey lets have some fun with it, if you have any suggestions to the list then lets here them it seems its the way the thread is going.....
so debate..
i was inspired to write this because of a recent journal i wrote on what is popular here on DA, i was also dared to make it a news article ......so always being up for a challenge i've made it a news article......intrigued?.....if you class yourself as a photographer then you should be.
Here is the very firmly tongue in cheek journal i wrote ....although many a true word spoke in jest.......so they say?
[link]
as said it covers what is popular here on D.A. especially that that is classed as photography... It was also inspired by a collective feeling that is out there relating to what is popular here on our beloved D.A. in the photography category. This collective feeling comes from people i watch and people that watch me.
I think the general 'feeling' is that what is appreciated as photography quite often has probably rather stepped into the realms of photo manipulation. There is no problem with photo manipulation and i know i am in danger of sounding like a photography snob i feel it only becomes a problem when well respected 'p photographers' mislead there many watchers by alluding to have taken a photo as opposed to their image being a photo manipulation.
Obviously this deceit can have a retrograding effect on the aspirations and achievements of an impressionable youth. Much of this debate will also encompass hdr and its over, and poor use to create an image that is more accurately categorised as photo manipulations.
ive also made some observations as to what i see as what is popular here on D.A. and i know ive opened myself up here to lots of stick.....especially among the cat owners (and im guilty in another way posting dog pictures
...but hey lets have some fun with it, if you have any suggestions to the list then lets here them it seems its the way the thread is going..... so debate..
I mayby going off the point a little but for me, 'real' photography is all about getting the shot I want 'in feild' to reduce that time staring into my monitor for hours on end, but as i said before dA is for all talents of art no matter what they produce whether it is cats, over processed and over saturated waterscapes. Obviously I cant take the higher ground because ive been there, but that is what learning is all about, experimenting and finding what works for you the best not what get you attention and the next big thing on dA. If you really love what you do pageviews dont come into it or favs or Daily deviations, but they are there to help to give you a boost and get your work noticed. This will always be a debate on here especially after the 'you know who' insidence
Anyway, glad you posted this article. It is spawning a lot of controversy and great comments. Thanks.
If a photo is adjusted to more accurately represent what the photographer actually saw...that is Photography.
If a photograph is substantially changed in tone, color or emphasis ,like extreme vignetting...that becomes Darkroom technique. (I think a lot of people forget that there is a digital darkroom category on DA, and that many more things belong there)
If the photograph is changed to add elements that were not there in the original or makes substantial use of filters etc., that alter the shapes of objects, that becomes Manipulation.
ALL of the above are art. Disclosure of the techniques used should be the issue, and there are way too many people that do not discuss what post processing they did. It doesn't mean writing a dissertation, or a need to discuss minor corrections...but if someone changes a sunset from gold to pink (whether through lens filters or Photoshop, they need to mention it. When you get really vivid sunsets "the hard way", seeing one that was manipulated can be frustrating.
No arguement will ever be won on the topic, and for obvious reasons.